tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post1129588750697711335..comments2024-03-20T00:30:11.702-07:00Comments on Home Education Heretic: The one-trick ponies of home educationSimon Webbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-79125214570469671022011-04-01T07:53:28.324-07:002011-04-01T07:53:28.324-07:00I have been watching this debate about home educat...I have been watching this debate about home education closely, and the case study of Peter Williams after seeing the genius television programme. <br /><br />Firstly, I think that every child and parent should have the right to decide how they wish to be educated, including home schooling.<br /><br />Looking at the results Peter Williams has failed to make the grade as far as international chess status is concerned. Unless he gets the coaching of Russian chess coaches I doubt he will make it.<br /><br />The sacrifice of his public school education is huge, not to mention the opportunities for socialisation. The obsession over chess to the exclusion of all else without hard results will end in failure across all aspects of the life of Peter Williams - that being the great tragedy of this story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-47201523733265600002011-02-23T12:41:54.249-08:002011-02-23T12:41:54.249-08:00anon says -"Peter beat the maths teacher at h...anon says -"Peter beat the maths teacher at his school at chess age 5!"<br /><br />yes Peter could beat him and with a blindfold on! or the ex maths teacher could have a queen head start if he wants? The maths teacher left the school not long after i hope it not because he lost to Peter!<br /><br />Peter has an Internatinal Chess grade and adult English chess grade as well and has won many many adult tournments and of course has a cupboard full of cups and has played for England twice at chess aboard! Peter was 2nd only last weekend at the open adult golder green rapidplay chess event in London this is a very strong event Peter drew with a russian grandmaster!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-16912007660676631662011-02-23T12:15:13.792-08:002011-02-23T12:15:13.792-08:00"Peter beat the maths teacher at his school a..."Peter beat the maths teacher at his school at chess age 5!"<br /><br />Could he still beat him now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-15466687940811556412011-02-23T09:36:27.847-08:002011-02-23T09:36:27.847-08:00Why have the cameras in in the first place?
Becau...Why have the cameras in in the first place?<br /><br />Because Peter wanted to make and learn about film making it was very intersting as well Peter got to talk to different tv people and we are very good friends with the lady who made the 2nd film about Peter he also got to visit channel 4 headquarters in London. not something many children have done? <br /><br />3 films have been made about Peter and in our view the 2nd one was best Lucy made a really good film about all of us the 3rd film cut out way to much! <br /><br />its just inportant for readers of old Webb blog to know that a great deal was filmed but not shown!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-74686545252407217352011-02-23T09:18:02.940-08:002011-02-23T09:18:02.940-08:00Why have the cameras in in the first place?
Darre...Why have the cameras in in the first place?<br /><br />DarrenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-37189537427800019712011-02-23T05:53:49.134-08:002011-02-23T05:53:49.134-08:00other anon says-think that's also what happene...other anon says-think that's also what happened when the TV program about Peter's family appeared, wasn't it? They didn't show the recordings of other activities,<br /><br />yes you are quite right a number of activities where filmed of Peter including the class at Taekwon- do with all the different age ranges! not shown.<br /><br />A trip to London was filmed to a bookshop but not shown! <br /><br />Filming was also done of the plants veg Peter likes to grow not show!Peter knows quite a lot about how to grow all sorts of plants veg/food <br /> <br />An offer of being able to film Peter with his friends where their meet up to eat/mix was agreed as a good idea but then droped with no reason given! <br /><br />Comments by us where made and not shown! including our view that it was a very hard decision to make over the home education and we only wanted the very best for our child. and Pete can give up chess any day its his chioce!Also no mention of the private tutor we pay for to! I wonder why?Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-47362425382982641652011-02-23T05:38:48.114-08:002011-02-23T05:38:48.114-08:00Dont try to explain to Simon what you actually sai...Dont try to explain to Simon what you actually said, he is only interested in what he thinks you said. The two are very different of course but that doesnt bother Simon, he hears what he wants to hear.<br /><br />We agree with you!<br /><br />Old Webb has nothing to offer other home educators just the same old worn out ideas! but i do think one should attempt to explain the real facts/truth for people to decide? and I can assure readers here that Peter does not spend every day just playing chess! Peter also goes out a lot to mix and go to clubs tonight it is Taekwon- do.Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-34133602084636099162011-02-23T05:38:40.389-08:002011-02-23T05:38:40.389-08:00"Dont try to explain to Simon what you actual..."Dont try to explain to Simon what you actually said, he is only interested in what he thinks you said."<br /><br />I think that's also what happened when the TV program about Peter's family appeared, wasn't it? They didn't show the recordings of other activities, just the chess related bits. Can't be sure because I didn't see it myself, just going by my memories of Peter & Carol's and others comments here at the time. Some people seem to like twisting facts to suit the point they are trying to make and ignore any inconvenient facts that conflict with that view.<br /><br />But apart from this aspect of the post, I do agree that limiting children's activities to the degree described is wrong when it happens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-3538386407897340742011-02-23T05:29:06.093-08:002011-02-23T05:29:06.093-08:00Dont try to explain to Simon what you actually sai...Dont try to explain to Simon what you actually said, he is only interested in what he thinks you said. The two are very different of course but that doesnt bother Simon, he hears what he wants to hear.<br /><br /><br />DarrenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-28187303318157155892011-02-23T02:07:18.696-08:002011-02-23T02:07:18.696-08:00old Webb also says -He frequently comments here an...old Webb also says -He frequently comments here and is apparently obsessed by the fact that his son is not receiving a good education at home<br /><br />Not as good an education as a private school like Eton college thats what i said.Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-1365281343619069092011-02-23T02:00:20.983-08:002011-02-23T02:00:20.983-08:00Old Webb says-Mr Williams belongs to a small subse...Old Webb says-Mr Williams belongs to a small subset of home educators, who wish their children to develop one particular skill to the exclusion of all else; in his case, chess.<br /><br />Webb gets it all wrong again its got nothing to do with develping skill to the exclusion of all else it is to give the child the very best chance to the child to develop his talent that the local state school was unable to cater for! despite many request from us the parents for extra help with this talent! <br /><br />your trapped in your tick box again Webb like so many state schools your unable to cater for something outside of the box.<br /><br />Old Webb then goes on to say-The chance to become engrossed in other hobbies apart from the important passion of their fathers. Being able to spend a summer not practising tennis or chess, or even taking up something quite different and focusing their energies on that instead.<br /><br /> Peter has many hobbies including Taekwon -DO(twice a week) and trampline club and stamp collecting and model club! not easy to fund all these hobbies. I wish Peter would spend his time full on chess! we do have a match this week at Sandhurst chess club looking forward to it!<br /><br />where you go wrong is you think people children are spending every minute of their life on say chess or what ever the child has a talent for their do not .Peter makes his own mind up as to what he spends his time on. State schools just can not always cater for certain skills such as chess Peter beat the maths teacher at his school at chess age 5! the school should help pupils like this not see it as a problem!<br /><br />Peter also meets up with his friends to play xbox or just hang out or go some where to eat.<br /><br />chidren must be given far more support in what ever talent skill their have this is anther area that new money should be found for?<br /><br />i also think teachers get scared of a skill talent a child has that their do not have? schools can often see this child as a problem?<br /><br />LA's should be helping children with talents why dont their? in many cases it would not always be money that is needed! it may be help with finding the right teacher you could have a good teacher for this skill in anther school can the LA then not arrange something? help is what is needed why dont these children get this?Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-20892566052702171042011-02-23T00:58:45.180-08:002011-02-23T00:58:45.180-08:00'He does have "old" parents though -...'He does have "old" parents though - wasn't Ruth Lawrence's father older than average (as is the situation in our family too!) I don't know exactly what that proves though!'<br /><br />Perhaps the older the father is, the more chance there is of his realising that he is not going to be a brilliant success in his field and therefore he pins his hopes on his child? This is just a guess.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-14781185659624972872011-02-23T00:56:38.124-08:002011-02-23T00:56:38.124-08:00Never sure whther this is merely giving you ammuit...Never sure whther this is merely giving you ammuition - because we met this lad at a home ed conference a few times.... but Bolton Browne, musician?? - He has a My Space page with biograpy. I think he is about the same age as my eldest daughter; I don't think his parents particularly hot housed him though, he just was fanatical about composing music from an early age. He does have "old" parents though - wasn't Ruth Lawrence's father older than average (as is the situation in our family too!) I don't know exactly what that proves though!Julienoreply@blogger.com