tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post1206130236375392415..comments2024-03-20T00:30:11.702-07:00Comments on Home Education Heretic: Copyright and privacy on the internetSimon Webbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-40110798519232182392011-02-16T04:31:29.085-08:002011-02-16T04:31:29.085-08:00But I still think it was just carelessly worded. I...But I still think it was just carelessly worded. I doubt Mike intended that people would have to leave the list once their youngest child reaches school leaving age, especially as many continue to HE for longer even when their child attends college part of the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-56467624819404976652011-02-16T04:28:49.428-08:002011-02-16T04:28:49.428-08:00"If you are not home educating or considering..."If you are not home educating or considering home education, then this group is forbidden to you."<br /><br />So if you are considering HE in the future, you can join. It states that people who are considering home education for 'their children' which obviously includes future, unborn children or grand-children (it's common usage that parent/carer are interchangeable and grand-parents have and do home educated grand-children). The requirement is a serious interest in home educating in the future, so I can't agree that currently being an ex-home educator disqualifies you from membership because you could easily become a home educator again at some point in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-50118690567265435742011-02-16T00:34:04.771-08:002011-02-16T00:34:04.771-08:00'It is clearly not against the purpose of the ...'It is clearly not against the purpose of the list for people whose children have turned 16 to stay on it, offering support and information around that transition, whether or not they still home educate, and even if the rules don't explicitly state they are welcome.'<br /><br />The rules specifically state that such people are unwelcome;<br /><br />''This group is for the exclusive use of those who are home educating or are considering home educating their children.'<br /><br />If you are not home educating or considering home education, then this group is forbidden to you.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-76026469506555425802011-02-15T23:47:06.068-08:002011-02-15T23:47:06.068-08:00It is clearly not against the purpose of the list ...It is clearly not against the purpose of the list for people whose children have turned 16 to stay on it, offering support and information around that transition, whether or not they still home educate, and even if the rules don't explicitly state they are welcome. That is very different from someone who uses information gleaned from a support list to mock either an individual or a group of people in a public blog or newspaper.<br />RLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-26059485125215307702011-02-15T14:59:26.007-08:002011-02-15T14:59:26.007-08:00"Initials J P perhaps???? "
'Fraid ..."Initials J P perhaps???? "<br /><br />'Fraid not. But then I would say that, wouldn't I? But really, I'm not J P. Don't even know who you mean so I don't know if I should feel pleased or insulted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-62988131534819649652011-02-15T13:21:22.699-08:002011-02-15T13:21:22.699-08:00"If you have such a bleak life that you have ..."If you have such a bleak life that you have nothing better to do than follow a teenage girl on twitter, then that's fine by me!"<br /><br />Sounds like quite an accurate description of yourself lurking on HE internet lists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-64810970733563362072011-02-15T12:31:00.817-08:002011-02-15T12:31:00.817-08:00'But maybe I'm fooling myself and everyone...'But maybe I'm fooling myself and everyone knows who I am anyway?'<br /><br />Initials J P perhaps????Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-29605390112133570262011-02-15T12:22:37.905-08:002011-02-15T12:22:37.905-08:00"Ultimately, if you want to keep something pr..."Ultimately, if you want to keep something private, keep it completely away from the internet."<br /><br />Agree 100% and have been aware of this issue for many years. But this still doesn't justify taking advantage of people you know are unaware of the dangers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-46679110382720648962011-02-15T12:20:20.982-08:002011-02-15T12:20:20.982-08:00"It will come back to haunt you one day if it..."It will come back to haunt you one day if it's that important to keep quiet."<br /><br />And of course, you can never be sure what will be important to keep quiet about in future. Simon has queried the use of 'anonymous' in comments quite often. Part of the reason I don't use a consistent name is because I do want to use parts of my life and experiences to make points but I don't want to risk all the points being added together making me and my children identifiable. But maybe I'm fooling myself and everyone knows who I am anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-82980325118388989242011-02-15T12:08:53.924-08:002011-02-15T12:08:53.924-08:00'One rule for all, no exceptions (apart from f...'One rule for all, no exceptions (apart from for your family, of course, to which a whole different set of rules seem to apply).'<br /><br />If you have such a bleak life that you have nothing better to do than follow a teenage girl on twitter, then that's fine by me! Blimey, a seventeen year old girl drinking alcohol; Hot stuff indeed!Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-12326635932597314232011-02-15T12:07:15.841-08:002011-02-15T12:07:15.841-08:00'That means don't put it in an email, don&...'That means don't put it in an email, don't put it in a blog post, don't put it on Facebook or Twitter or any other social media site. It will come back to haunt you one day if it's that important to keep quiet.'<br /><br />Sound advice indeed!Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-32394912950385773272011-02-15T12:01:34.148-08:002011-02-15T12:01:34.148-08:00Ultimately, if you want to keep something private,...Ultimately, if you want to keep something private, keep it completely away from the internet. That means don't put it in an email, don't put it in a blog post, don't put it on Facebook or Twitter or any other social media site. It will come back to haunt you one day if it's that important to keep quiet.Dave Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-69071606652017438032011-02-15T11:35:22.216-08:002011-02-15T11:35:22.216-08:00If there is no privacy on the internet can your da...If there is no privacy on the internet can your daughter really complain when her college reads her Twitter messages and is not very happy about them?<br /><br />Is it sensible for her to make public the fact the she drinks in pubs even though underage and gets hungover?<br /><br />Maybe she should protect her tweets? Maybe you should show her your blog posts on this very topic and advise her as part of your public service. One rule for all, no exceptions (apart from for your family, of course, to which a whole different set of rules seem to apply).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-22071019974972500532011-02-15T10:09:06.129-08:002011-02-15T10:09:06.129-08:00"Seems to me Anonymous that you are spending ..."Seems to me Anonymous that you are spending more time looking at my blog and categorising the contents than I do in writing the thing."<br /><br />Took a few minutes - hardly an age.<br /><br />"Here's a little hint for those who find themselves on a blog which they find to be boring or repetitious."<br /><br />You've been told before by others - one of the reasons people continue to read you blog is because they don't want your lies and/or sloppy thinking to stand unchallenged.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-86013140490533725172011-02-15T09:12:29.234-08:002011-02-15T09:12:29.234-08:00Here's a little hint for those who find themse...Here's a little hint for those who find themselves on a blog which they find to be boring or repetitious. You can either do what I do, which is to avoid that blog in the future, or you can keep reading it and complaining that it is boring and repetitious. Perhaps readers who have other methods for dealing with boring and repetitious blogs would like to share them to help out those who are apparently at a loss to know how to avoid being bored and reading the same type of article over and over again?Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-19277847376659429372011-02-15T09:06:32.092-08:002011-02-15T09:06:32.092-08:00'I agree, this blog is very repetitive. Not su...'I agree, this blog is very repetitive. Not sure why he feels the need to write something (anything) every day. I've managed to fit the last 23 posts into 5 categories and suspect the very few extra categories would be needed for the whole blog (600+ articles).'<br /><br />Whoa, some people have way to much time on their hands! Seems to me Anonymous that you are spending more time looking at my blog and categorising the contents than I do in writing the thing.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-32437940174218805762011-02-15T08:57:28.496-08:002011-02-15T08:57:28.496-08:00"Not this same old shit again, how repetitive..."Not this same old shit again, how repetitive."<br /><br />I agree, this blog is very repetitive. Not sure why he feels the need to write something (anything) every day. I've managed to fit the last 23 posts into 5 categories and suspect the very few extra categories would be needed for the whole blog (600+ articles).<br /><br />8 - Attacking individual home educators and/or the UKHE email list<br /><br />2 - Anti-school post/anti-negative reasons for HE (!)<br /><br />6 - Pro monitoring and/or home visits/LAs having greater powers<br /><br />5 - Links to articles of interest (often anti-HE)<br /><br />2 - Anti-supporters of the campaign against Schedule 1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-30391033392522811092011-02-15T08:36:07.027-08:002011-02-15T08:36:07.027-08:00Not this same old shit again, how repetitive.
Dar...Not this same old shit again, how repetitive.<br /><br />DarrenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-9063845660238952232011-02-15T08:35:34.241-08:002011-02-15T08:35:34.241-08:00'Sounds like an obsession to me:
Obsession: C...'Sounds like an obsession to me:<br /><br />Obsession: Compulsive preoccupation with a fixed idea or an unwanted feeling or emotion'<br /><br />Well, perhaps you have a point, Anonymous!Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-42468236007936883172011-02-15T08:30:09.846-08:002011-02-15T08:30:09.846-08:00Simon wrote,
"you know you shoudn't do it...Simon wrote,<br />"you know you shoudn't do it and yet there is a horrid fascination which compels you onwards"<br /><br />Sounds like an obsession to me:<br /><br /><i>Obsession: Compulsive preoccupation with a fixed idea or an unwanted feeling or emotion</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-83268133832562501032011-02-15T08:29:03.865-08:002011-02-15T08:29:03.865-08:00"To be fair, it is only a couple of days sinc..."To be fair, it is only a couple of days since I was accused of being a bully. Now you seem to be suggesting that I am a victim."<br /><br />Perhaps you would fall into the 'victim bully' category then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-22917694890276048472011-02-15T08:27:38.355-08:002011-02-15T08:27:38.355-08:00"So, does this mean that you think that anybo..."So, does this mean that you think that anybody who has finished home educating for good is ethically obliged to leave the list or not?"<br /><br />Of course I do, if that were the intention of that rule. I suspect however that this was not the intention, that this is an accidental wording, and that the listowner would consider home educators who have children older 16 as home educators. If it were disputed, I'm reasonably sure he would change the wording.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-23457001313164391732011-02-15T07:10:26.454-08:002011-02-15T07:10:26.454-08:00'Why the obsession, Simon?'
I'm not s...'Why the obsession, Simon?'<br /><br />I'm not sure that obsession is precisely the word. I keep an eye on many home education lists, but HE-UK is, on a number of levels, in a class of its own. Returning to it regularly is a bit like picking at a scab or squeezing a spot. It is disgusting and you know you shoudn't do it and yet there is a horrid fascination which compels you onwards!Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-44437301162521983392011-02-15T07:07:32.927-08:002011-02-15T07:07:32.927-08:00'Other people breaking list rules are irreleva...'Other people breaking list rules are irrelevant (and debatable). Two wrongs do not make right. Many members of the list will have read the rules and posted believing that others would abide by those rules. You might just as well say, 'well lots of other people are muggers, so I don't need to abide by that law either'.'<br /><br />So, does this mean that you think that anybody who has finished home educating for good is ethically obliged to leave the list or not? I can't quite understand your point of view about this.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-83355932102649818982011-02-15T07:05:53.813-08:002011-02-15T07:05:53.813-08:00'And thus reinforcing your feelings of victimi...'And thus reinforcing your feelings of victimization'<br /><br />To be fair, it is only a couple of days since I was accused of being a bully. Now you seem to be suggesting that I am a victim.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.com