tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post1967756403577315049..comments2024-03-20T00:30:11.702-07:00Comments on Home Education Heretic: Stoke-on-Trent and home educationSimon Webbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-39933411898910489722013-11-23T15:13:33.919-08:002013-11-23T15:13:33.919-08:00just to add to the original post http://www.public...just to add to the original post http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmeduc/559/559vw42.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-26793768714399304622013-11-21T12:51:27.052-08:002013-11-21T12:51:27.052-08:00"Why do you refuse to reveal these mysterious..."Why do you refuse to reveal these mysterious questions?"<br /><br />They're probably like the Schleswig-Holstein question, understood by only three people and of those, one was dead, another had gone mad and the remaining one had forgotten about it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-66707920934985240352013-11-21T11:38:28.043-08:002013-11-21T11:38:28.043-08:00Then I think this is where different LAs need to t...Then I think this is where different LAs need to talk to each other and with home educators, to learn about what constitutes suspicious behaviour and what doesn't.<br /><br />Home educators also need to learn that some modes of behaviour will generate suspicion, even if there is no real reason for it. An innocent family should not be in so much fear that they have to leave the country, but I don't doubt it can happen.<br /><br />Entrenched positions, lack of open communication and growth of suspicion leads to the kind of all-out hostility that we have now between many HEors and LAs.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-60505432726091258652013-11-21T11:07:52.005-08:002013-11-21T11:07:52.005-08:00"You're very angry and you've become ..."You're very angry and you've become insulting"<br /><br />No, simply teasing you for your dissembling obfuscation. Accusing me of being insulting is pretty rich coming from someone who's accusing others of being unethical.<br /><br />Why do you refuse to reveal these mysterious questions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-23066616305272746542013-11-21T10:46:57.832-08:002013-11-21T10:46:57.832-08:00"I'm out."
No, you're rumbled."I'm out."<br /><br />No, you're rumbled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-70268364884214550502013-11-21T10:46:11.388-08:002013-11-21T10:46:11.388-08:00"I would prefer a home educator do that then ..."I would prefer a home educator do that then elect him or herself to a position of power and go on to take no notice of the community they pretend to represent and refuse to answer questions"..."it is unethical to do so IMO."<br /><br />Instead of all this holier-than-thou claptrap, why don't you post the mysterious unanswered questions - then maybe, as someone said below, someone else can throw some light on this.<br /><br />Or are the questions like the location of a certain home-educating grandmother in the north of a Celtic principality - a state secret?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-59816318473743512512013-11-21T10:41:05.203-08:002013-11-21T10:41:05.203-08:00You're very angry and you've become insult...You're very angry and you've become insulting. I'm out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-46152630813414208792013-11-21T10:32:17.330-08:002013-11-21T10:32:17.330-08:00"That's fairly judgemental and high-hande..."That's fairly judgemental and high-handed Anonymous."<br /><br />Says another judgemental and high-handed anonymous.<br /><br />Besides, unlike the "ethical" brigade I'm not trying the naive piety path to sainthood!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-28059498634575221262013-11-21T10:27:41.348-08:002013-11-21T10:27:41.348-08:00That's fairly judgemental and high-handed Anon...That's fairly judgemental and high-handed Anonymous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-54469479161665392982013-11-21T10:11:22.326-08:002013-11-21T10:11:22.326-08:00Try capability and credibility for starters.Try capability and credibility for starters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-37558169089315897032013-11-21T09:57:14.280-08:002013-11-21T09:57:14.280-08:00What is it then?What is it then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-76751596294246242762013-11-21T09:42:48.906-08:002013-11-21T09:42:48.906-08:00Agreed; if the questions and responses had been po...Agreed; if the questions and responses had been posted as often as the complaints, we would understand rather more about the "issue".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-91957034403389976502013-11-21T09:40:32.262-08:002013-11-21T09:40:32.262-08:00"Because it is unethical to do so IMO."
..."Because it is unethical to do so IMO."<br /><br />I don't think it's your ethics preventing you from electing yourself to a position of power!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-40979671743551373582013-11-21T08:43:52.531-08:002013-11-21T08:43:52.531-08:00Ask the questions here, then. There are people com...Ask the questions here, then. There are people commenting here who have attended the meetings. If you aren't satisfied with the reports of the meetings available online, perhaps someone here can answer you. All these mysterious mutterings about 'unanswered questions' could just be an emotional response to having not been invited to attend, for all anyone knows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-83553280427265479532013-11-21T07:17:59.651-08:002013-11-21T07:17:59.651-08:00"Then why don't you elect yourself to a p..."Then why don't you elect yourself to a position of power?"<br /><br />Because it is unethical to do so IMO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-69573409742489751992013-11-21T06:46:35.931-08:002013-11-21T06:46:35.931-08:00I agree with you and not being in should not be a ...I agree with you and not being in should not be a cause for concern however if an LA is thinking of trying to introduce monitoring then having collections to send families abroad, giving false details and going out of area for medical help do not put home educators in a good light. If you try to hide something then there will always be somebody who wants to find out what it is. Cheshire catnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-33400323286015717292013-11-21T06:02:11.094-08:002013-11-21T06:02:11.094-08:00"A councilor is elected and is subject to pub..."A councilor is elected and is subject to public scrutiny and checks and balances. I would prefer a home educator do that then elect him or herself to a position of power and go on to take no notice of the community they pretend to represent and refuse to answer questions"<br /><br />Then why don't you elect yourself to a position of power?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-61943213735407722622013-11-21T04:35:26.266-08:002013-11-21T04:35:26.266-08:00Cheshire Cat wrote:
"I too think it is going ...Cheshire Cat wrote:<br />"I too think it is going a bit far but do you think that when these people read things like: people going to hospitals outside your area, raising money to send children to Ireland and giving false names and addresses might make them suspicious?"<br /><br />Those might raise suspicion - whether or not it turns out to be justified is another matter - but we're not talking about anything like that here, are we. We're talking about a local authority that is suspicious without any good reason at all. <br /><br />I've been known to be out myself when people visit; does that mean I might be engaged in some terrorist plot? <br /><br />Your jump from one, possibly justified, suspicion to another that isn't is the kind of thing that sends us down the route of an authoritarian state where everyone ends-up monitored for something or other.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-53934415862240084562013-11-21T03:45:05.938-08:002013-11-21T03:45:05.938-08:00Sorry, meant to say 'I'm sure you're n...Sorry, meant to say 'I'm sure you're not solely responsible...' Otherwise people might think you were some sort of a cross between Svengali and Machiavelli and busily working in the shadows to undermine home education.<br /><br />That, of course, is an old, old scandal and had about as much foundation as any of the scandals ever seem to. After all, if you were that capable, wouldn't you be doing something much better paid?<br /><br />AnneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-33226014026522335112013-11-21T03:41:47.547-08:002013-11-21T03:41:47.547-08:00I'm sure you're solely responsible for tha...I'm sure you're solely responsible for that, Simon, but I do think the relentless negativity of your blog might give a very one sided picture of home education that would reinforce existing prejudices.<br /><br />So how about highlighting the positive side of home education one day a week?. There are several things you've touched on that I'd like to hear more about, like your wife's reactions to you teaching biology via roadkill.<br /><br />Atb<br />AnneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-7338326581179412752013-11-21T03:20:35.240-08:002013-11-21T03:20:35.240-08:00Until someone presents some substance to these all...Until someone presents some substance to these allegations (i.e., questions and responses), then they're just hot air. Even Simon seems to be in the dark.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-676342646849679082013-11-21T02:51:46.532-08:002013-11-21T02:51:46.532-08:00'Surely, questions about the APPG should go to...'Surely, questions about the APPG should go to the chair,'<br /><br />This is probably technically true. However, the suggestion has also been made that questions addressed to Graham Stuart are dextrously fielded and then referred to Fiona, where they are neatly kicked into the long grass. I have no idea if this is true, but it is what is being asserted in some quarters.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-83546337166351008622013-11-21T02:45:01.064-08:002013-11-21T02:45:01.064-08:00"I suspect that this is a coded reference to ..."I suspect that this is a coded reference to Fiona Nicholson. Some home educators are claiming that she is a little evasive when asked direct questions about the doings of the APPG."<br /><br />Surely, questions about the APPG should go to the chair, who may decide to answer via the secretariat. A secretary may be given a certain amount of discretion and autonomy, but as a default position, I'd ask questions of the chair in the first place.<br /><br />I'm still curious about the questions themselves - and the non-answers - though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-73793693096615126382013-11-21T02:30:21.470-08:002013-11-21T02:30:21.470-08:00'I'm curious to know what questions have b...'I'm curious to know what questions have been refused; what could have made them so contentious and what reply was given?'<br /><br />I suspect that this is a coded reference to Fiona Nicholson. Some home educators are claiming that she is a little evasive when asked direct questions about the doings of the APPG.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-52126627381409832492013-11-21T02:20:50.748-08:002013-11-21T02:20:50.748-08:00"and refuse to answer questions."
I'..."and refuse to answer questions."<br /><br />I'm curious to know what questions have been refused; what could have made them so contentious and what reply was given?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com