tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post553159085510087575..comments2024-03-20T00:30:11.702-07:00Comments on Home Education Heretic: How to obtain information about home education from Graham Stuart; the right way and the wrong waySimon Webbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-49397788501281744352013-12-07T06:45:22.947-08:002013-12-07T06:45:22.947-08:00'There is only one Cheshire cat and you, Madam...'There is only one Cheshire cat and you, Madam, are no Cheshire Cat.'<br /><br />I have a suspicion about the identity of the false Cheshire Cat, which incidentally, sounds like an offbeat thriller; The Case of the False Cheshire Cat. Has anybody else noticed the use of the word, 'inanity'? This is a fairly unusual turn of phrase, but I have observed one well-known home educator who is very fond of using both this word and also 'spew'.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-50825822427711224452013-12-07T06:17:25.827-08:002013-12-07T06:17:25.827-08:00Exactly. There is only one Cheshire cat and you, M...Exactly. There is only one Cheshire cat and you, Madam, are no Cheshire Cat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-75429761614722020152013-12-07T02:01:05.902-08:002013-12-07T02:01:05.902-08:00While I've crossed swords with the real Cheshi...While I've crossed swords with the real Cheshire cat on a few occasions, I find you much more obnoxious.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-76652193396722061652013-12-06T09:27:43.089-08:002013-12-06T09:27:43.089-08:00You still at it? Twit.You still at it? Twit.Cheshire catnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-24929311769004302112013-12-06T09:12:40.058-08:002013-12-06T09:12:40.058-08:00With all the trolling here by Simon and his sock p...With all the trolling here by Simon and his sock puppets this blog is a farce.Cheshire catnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-18162310678951277862013-12-06T08:58:40.685-08:002013-12-06T08:58:40.685-08:00Anonymous at 8.15, lol.Anonymous at 8.15, lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-19833716732091195742013-12-06T08:58:00.464-08:002013-12-06T08:58:00.464-08:00Hysterical!Hysterical!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-52363933300287072892013-12-06T08:15:19.752-08:002013-12-06T08:15:19.752-08:00The questions weren't "in depth or comple...The questions weren't "in depth or complex" - they were lost in what looks like an opinionated political rant. <br /><br />It's harder to ignore direct, well-formed questions, and an alternative route through a local MP might also be worth a try.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-60567308959722873642013-12-06T07:39:43.075-08:002013-12-06T07:39:43.075-08:00Given Fiona has refused to answer direct question...Given Fiona has refused to answer direct questions about her role or indeed the APPG, it's hardly surprising that GS has been asked for clarification. It is disappointing that he hasn't bothered to address the questions. And yes I would expect an MP who is supposed to represent 'us' to answer the questions put forward to him, no matter how in depth or complex they may be. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-60951719877047313922013-12-06T03:52:55.508-08:002013-12-06T03:52:55.508-08:00The Amphlett email reads like something from a 197...The Amphlett email reads like something from a 1970s student union "debate". I've mixed feelings about the questions, but they're drowned in the rest of the turgid prose.<br /><br />That doesn't mean the questions don't deserve an answer, but unfortunately this is the way that politics seems to proceed - too many words and too little thought on either side.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-30806724787803834542013-12-05T13:50:38.717-08:002013-12-05T13:50:38.717-08:00Sadly that comment does not address my question.Sadly that comment does not address my question.Alangentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-25089280943341770772013-12-05T13:35:04.263-08:002013-12-05T13:35:04.263-08:00' Please explain how you have put this theory ...' Please explain how you have put this theory to the test in such a way as to eliminate the possibility that the refusal to answer Lisa was due to the content of her question rather than the manner of her asking?'<br />Another difference between Lisa's questions and mine was that she already knew the answer to some of them. For instance:<br /><br />'To whom do I direct my request for a full client list of the secretariat/secretariat support, as per P11 of the HoC Guide to the Rules on All-Party Groups?'<br /><br />She knows as well as I do that only Jane Lowe and Fiona Nicholson are members of the secretariat support. The questions that I have been asking are about things that I don't know, but wish to knowSimon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-58319378835421468572013-12-05T11:38:26.730-08:002013-12-05T11:38:26.730-08:00Well I am unclear on this. Your theory is that Lis...Well I am unclear on this. Your theory is that Lisa did not get answers from Graham Stuart because she asked the wrong way. Whereas you did get answers because you asked the right way. Please explain how you have put this theory to the test in such a way as to eliminate the possibility that the refusal to answer Lisa was due to the content of her question rather than the manner of her asking?Alangentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-20564659636796411282013-12-05T11:30:25.541-08:002013-12-05T11:30:25.541-08:00'I wonder then do you propose to put your thin...'I wonder then do you propose to put your thinking on this to the test and if so how? Do you usually examine and test your theories?'<br /><br />Why yes, this theory has stood the test of time for that very reason.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-53510702821368567022013-12-05T11:17:35.760-08:002013-12-05T11:17:35.760-08:00"If you are that keen to make the experiment,..."If you are that keen to make the experiment, why not give it a try yourself?" Well because it isn't my theory it's yours. I wonder then do you propose to put your thinking on this to the test and if so how? Do you usually examine and test your theories?Alangentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-56895021524329399692013-12-05T11:11:52.346-08:002013-12-05T11:11:52.346-08:00'I venture to suggest you are unwilling to ris...'I venture to suggest you are unwilling to risk being proved wrong!'<br /><br />Or perhaps I am very busy. If you are that keen to make the experiment, why not give it a try yourself? I have now had definite answers to two of the questions which I asked and I expect the third and final answer tomorrow. Since I am anxious to maintain good relations with Graham Stuart's office, I don't really see how it would help to bombard them with another thirteen questions over the next three months!Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-2140234148818854692013-12-05T11:03:49.724-08:002013-12-05T11:03:49.724-08:00I wasn't suggesting that you lend Lisa a hand,...I wasn't suggesting that you lend Lisa a hand, merely suggesting that you might like to put to the test your theory that Graham Stuart's response was due to the manner of asking rather than an outright refusal to be open and transparent. I venture to suggest you are unwilling to risk being proved wrong!Alangentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-49270501795925441182013-12-05T11:00:41.196-08:002013-12-05T11:00:41.196-08:00What's your agenda?What's your agenda?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-50542748970290213232013-12-05T10:55:37.662-08:002013-12-05T10:55:37.662-08:00' Take Lisa's questions one at a time and ...' Take Lisa's questions one at a time and drop a friendly email to Graham Stuart. See if you get answers.'<br /><br />Ah, I think I see what you mean. You are suggesting that I should lend her a hand in finding out what she wants to know? I could do that, but I doubt that she would welcome my input. I have a somewhat different agenda, anyway. Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-62326587100827582372013-12-05T10:38:38.039-08:002013-12-05T10:38:38.039-08:00The problem with your strategy is that superficial...The problem with your strategy is that superficial, overly-simplistic questions naturally invite superficial or overly-simplistic responses. For example, you asked if Graham Stuart was supporting new regulation. This invited the apparently reassuringly unequivocal response that he is not. However, Lisa asked the much more pertinent question addressing the possibility that the APPG, being comprised of LA officers, will put forward new regulation and this question receives what amounts to a metaphorical two fingers from Graham Stuart's office. Can you not understand the frustration and mistrust this causes? Your superficial question and Lisa's much deeper questions can hardly be compared. It's not so much that there is a right and wrong way to get information it's more that most information is being withheld. If you believe otherwise, why not put it to the test. Take Lisa's questions one at a time and drop a friendly email to Graham Stuart. See if you get answers.Alangentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-24593750769272351232013-12-05T09:51:45.552-08:002013-12-05T09:51:45.552-08:00'why does anyone imagine home education is saf...'why does anyone imagine home education is safe in his hands?'<br /><br />I'm not sure who does imagine this! I've met the man and wasn't over impressed. Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-17384170890743167262013-12-05T09:44:13.730-08:002013-12-05T09:44:13.730-08:00And given that level of contemptuousness from an e...And given that level of contemptuousness from an elected MP towards addressing the concerns of stakeholders (who also happen to pay his wages) why does anyone imagine home education is safe in his hands?Alangentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-66518131608955595232013-12-05T09:37:23.021-08:002013-12-05T09:37:23.021-08:00'none of them were autonomously educated as fa...'none of them were autonomously educated as far as I know, or they might be able to read and write complex material.'<br /><br /><br />There is one home educated MP. Lisa'a reply wasn't written by an MP though. It is a standard thing, knocked up by an aide and sent to several other people who have been asking questions.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-5866828611789748662013-12-05T09:35:16.771-08:002013-12-05T09:35:16.771-08:00So basically we should assume MPs have the literac...So basically we should assume MPs have the literacy level of the average Sun reader and adjust our expectations accordingly? Yep, you're probably right...none of them were autonomously educated as far as I know, or they might be able to read and write complex material.Alangentnoreply@blogger.com