tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post6967967117082783360..comments2024-03-20T00:30:11.702-07:00Comments on Home Education Heretic: More about Education OtherwiseSimon Webbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-67832110135349592702010-11-12T02:29:08.872-08:002010-11-12T02:29:08.872-08:00We have a so called Elective home Education coordi...We have a so called Elective home Education coordinator here in Hampshire Called Jan Lewis not heard a word from here thought she was supposed to provide a service to home educators Julie?Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-18840128905031890302010-11-12T02:23:44.642-08:002010-11-12T02:23:44.642-08:00Allie says-sorry, I didn't mean to imply you w...Allie says-sorry, I didn't mean to imply you wouldn't put in effort. I was just remarking that, as services are (by and large) not provided by the state for home educators, we have to do it for ourselves or not have those things. To me that seems fair enough because my family has chosen not to use the state services on offer.<br /><br />you not answered the question why cant we have services for home educators after all we pay our taxes in full? and we have not chosen we havebeen forced what kind of choice is that? go to a crap school or nothing thats the kind of chocie you want?<br />there is no access to services in this part of Hampshire to colleges for under 16 your wrong!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-50950475376828486082010-11-12T02:12:01.678-08:002010-11-12T02:12:01.678-08:00Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you wouldn't...Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you wouldn't put in effort. I was just remarking that, as services are (by and large) not provided by the state for home educators, we have to do it for ourselves or not have those things. To me that seems fair enough because my family has chosen not to use the state services on offer. But if people feel they have no choice but to home educate then I can understand they might feel short changed.<br /><br />Mind you, it sounds like there is some access to colleges in Hampshire for 14-16s which doesn't seem to be happening here.Alliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11321428226929318418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-82579077600181465522010-11-12T00:45:40.903-08:002010-11-12T00:45:40.903-08:00I think that those of us who feel that we choose t...I think that those of us who feel that we choose to home educate often feel very differently to those who feel that they have been forced into it. I don't expect services from anyone. I don't expect home ed groups to exist unless I'm prepared to put in some effort and/or money to see that they do.<br /><br />Who said anything about not puting effort into it?<br />Why cant we have services from those that we pay tax to?Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-29578193997547594902010-11-12T00:43:15.644-08:002010-11-12T00:43:15.644-08:00You need to identify an 14 -16 course first; then ...You need to identify an 14 -16 course first; then you need to apply to HCC EOTAS re funding<br /><br />Which would be turned down by HCC!(EOTAS is a complete waste of space and has nothing to offer other than threats!) Eastleigh to far away im afraid but we have played chess they Peter won money they! and we playing at Eastleigh college this weekend!<br />as i said you on your own in this part of Hampshire!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-81576152120558129792010-11-11T10:41:16.279-08:002010-11-11T10:41:16.279-08:00You need to identify an 14 -16 course first; then ...You need to identify an 14 -16 course first; then you need to apply to HCC EOTAS re funding....but you will have missed the boat for this year since the courses are well underway. There are various home educated children on courses at Farehm and Eastleigh (both of which have bigger 14 -16 provision) and some doing other courses at Havant - no issues at all.Julienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-88175940973869188622010-11-11T09:58:48.019-08:002010-11-11T09:58:48.019-08:00I think that those of us who feel that we choose t...I think that those of us who feel that we choose to home educate often feel very differently to those who feel that they have been forced into it. I don't expect services from anyone. I don't expect home ed groups to exist unless I'm prepared to put in some effort and/or money to see that they do. That doesn't bother me because I feel that I have made the choice to live this way.Alliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11321428226929318418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-35482433472653409332010-11-11T09:37:17.290-08:002010-11-11T09:37:17.290-08:00asked once but college said no got quite angry she...asked once but college said no got quite angry she did! something to do with HCC i belive!<br /><br />no college in Hampshire will allow Peter to go to it becuase of HCC and David KirkPeter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-13048912258771595342010-11-11T09:26:42.922-08:002010-11-11T09:26:42.922-08:00Have you actually found a suitable course? (Alton ...Have you actually found a suitable course? (Alton isn't a very big college so they probably don't do many courses for 14-16 year olds)<br /><br />and have you actually applied - there are some HE students on college courses in Hampshire!Julienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-89894186805870690092010-11-11T09:20:07.138-08:002010-11-11T09:20:07.138-08:00Julie says-Do you want a college place for Peter?-...Julie says-Do you want a college place for Peter?- ie is there a collge course he would actually like to do at Alton available? <br /><br />We do but your not allowed to go to College HCC will block it! so no college place for Peter shame really as he do very well there!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-44232341514731207162010-11-11T08:42:23.273-08:002010-11-11T08:42:23.273-08:00"who pays for all of that?"
well at £5 ..."who pays for all of that?"<br /><br />well at £5 a week for tuition, most HE parents can manage that (the reason of course it is so cheap is that we (those who do, as Sarah might say, the donkey work, are volunteers).<br /><br />Do you want a college place for Peter?- ie is there a collge course he would actually like to do at Alton available?Julienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-62930135395953081462010-11-11T08:16:27.059-08:002010-11-11T08:16:27.059-08:00crafty \Mrs Anon says-no home edders giving metual...crafty \Mrs Anon says-no home edders giving metual support or socialising here'<br /><br />Do you mean in your house? You may have to actually get a bus or something, if you don't have a car, to get to local activites, but as most of us who comment here know, local HE groups can a wonderful resource if you can be bothered to go to them.<br /><br />no i dont mean in our house! we know of no group that has meeting with activites in this town. im sorry but there are no resources to be had in this town from a local group! I perfer the train but bus is ok we do enjoy our trips to London! <br />im afraid your on your own in this town Mrs Anon this town is very anti home education.<br />What we want is college for children under 16.Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-89231836210315715712010-11-11T08:01:51.073-08:002010-11-11T08:01:51.073-08:00Julie says-One family from Alton comes down to our...Julie says-One family from Alton comes down to our (southern) group each week for maths, English, and science GCSE classes, and is sitting her first maths module on Monday....there are plenty of opportunities out there for HE students to learn, play and meet others <br /><br />who pays for all of that? any chance HCC will? answer is no! there are not plenty of opportunities for home educated children to play and meet others in this town you can still meet state school children so long as the parent is not anti home education!.This town is very anti home education.I suspect the libary will come under pressure to take down any display about home education! H <br />why cant a child under 16 go to college here? whats the so called group doing about that? answer nothing!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-27856007891900520302010-11-11T07:39:04.707-08:002010-11-11T07:39:04.707-08:00Peter- your local group is run by a collection of ...Peter- your local group is run by a collection of ordinary local families who home educate- one of whom has certainly been on this blog before and in fact it was because you said then there was no evidence of what went on locally that she has organised the library display.<br /><br />I am not even anything to do with the group, but I can tell you that this week (which is a fairly normal typical week) there has been a science and art session in Hook, soft play etc in Basingstoke, and a group went to a concert in the Albert Hall on Tueaday night. Coming up there is a history trip to Basing House next week and planned visit to all sorts of other places. One family from Alton comes down to our (southern) group each week for maths, English, and science GCSE classes, and is sitting her first maths module on Monday....there are plenty of opportunities out there for HE students to learn, play and meet others - go and look in the library!Julienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-78897261462919517992010-11-11T07:33:58.903-08:002010-11-11T07:33:58.903-08:00Allie says-There are a lot of other ordinary home ...Allie says-There are a lot of other ordinary home edders out there, Peter, who just meet up for mutual support and socialising. I find our local community a huge source of support, information and encouragement. <br /><br />no home edders giving metual support or socialising here and has for the community here in this town im afraid it does not like home education it is very anti home education your on you own in this town! no support from this communtiy more likly to report you for not sending child to school! <br />You like here Webb almost all children go to school its a very nice area!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-20925373328875365482010-11-11T07:27:37.786-08:002010-11-11T07:27:37.786-08:00crafty Mrs Anon says-Yes, but you're not likel...crafty Mrs Anon says-Yes, but you're not likely to, are you, when you apparently didn't even know that there was an HE group local to you.<br /><br />Have you been to the library yet?<br /><br />it must be a very quiet group if it does not know of us! does it meet in secret? have never heard of a group meeting in this town sorry! maybe HCC are running the group!<br /><br />to wet to go to libary today but we will see what all of this means on monday chess over the weekend!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-67358025803137624382010-11-11T06:53:49.503-08:002010-11-11T06:53:49.503-08:00Peter says of a local home ed group,
"who do...Peter says of a local home ed group,<br /><br />"who does it report to?"<br /><br />which strikes me as a very odd question. I have never been in a home ed group that answered to anyone beyond its members. There are a lot of other ordinary home edders out there, Peter, who just meet up for mutual support and socialising. I find our local community a huge source of support, information and encouragement. If you've got a local group who are organised enough to get a display in the local library then I'd certainly check them out.Alliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11321428226929318418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-18131415692212520512010-11-11T06:34:27.544-08:002010-11-11T06:34:27.544-08:00'We have seen no sign of that'
Yes, but ...'We have seen no sign of that' <br /><br />Yes, but you're not likely to, are you, when you apparently didn't even know that there was an HE group local to you.<br /><br />Have you been to the library yet?<br /><br />Mrs AnonMrs anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-7187545542384530402010-11-11T02:29:38.874-08:002010-11-11T02:29:38.874-08:00oh no mrs Anon said a funny word _No, Mr Turnip He...oh no mrs Anon said a funny word _No, Mr Turnip Head, she is busy trying to get cheap/free exam centres for people like your son to use, if they ever wish to take exams.<br /><br />Take your blinkers off.<br /><br />We have seen no sign of that and have letters from HCC saying no help for home educators! your allowed to take exam in any school in this part of Hampshire in your home educated!<br />you talk a lot about what you say teacher Julie does but we seen no sign of this on the ground here!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-60010267941642673332010-11-11T02:04:35.461-08:002010-11-11T02:04:35.461-08:00No, Mr Turnip Head, she is busy trying to get chea...No, Mr Turnip Head, she is busy trying to get cheap/free exam centres for people like your son to use, if they ever wish to take exams.<br /><br />Take your blinkers off.<br /><br />Mrs AnonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-22688835046816660312010-11-11T01:42:09.100-08:002010-11-11T01:42:09.100-08:00Mrs Anon says-In all the years I have known Julie,...Mrs Anon says-In all the years I have known Julie, I have NEVER heard her talk about a right or wrong wrong way to home educate. I've only ever heard her encourage people to find out what's best for their kids. <br /><br />We not heard Julie encourage people to home educate where is the evidence for this? finding out what is best for your children and then being able to act on this is not so easy according to Julie if your not sure about home education then back to the crap state school that failed you! and Why does teacher Julie not want the money that is lost when you home educate not being giving to those parents that wants it Julie talks about choice but they is no real choice from what we can see she is to busy sucking up to HCC!Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-33199369628732924622010-11-11T00:08:24.007-08:002010-11-11T00:08:24.007-08:00It's interesting Peter. In all the years I hav...It's interesting Peter. In all the years I have known Julie, I have NEVER heard her talk about a right or wrong wrong way to home educate. I've only ever heard her encourage people to find out what's best for their kids. You, however, are constantly referring to the 'wrong' or 'right' way to HE.<br /><br />And what's a 'so called display'? Julie told you that your local group has put up a dislay on HE in the library. What reason do you have to believe it's not a display?<br /><br />The fact that you don't know there's a local group in your area is sad, but hardly Julie's fault, so stop blaming her for your ignorance!<br /><br />Mrs AnonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-63414793039259043642010-11-10T13:56:25.999-08:002010-11-10T13:56:25.999-08:00I am sure there will be details in the library dis...I am sure there will be details in the library display!Julienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-19547047669135750142010-11-10T12:40:46.657-08:002010-11-10T12:40:46.657-08:00Teacher Julie said...
Hand in what? the libra...Teacher Julie said...<br /><br /> Hand in what? the library - nothing to do with me; that is your local group!<br /><br />Sorry we know of no local group in this part of Hampshire.Where does it meet and what does it do? who does it report to? We are out and about in this part of Hampshire and have never seen this group very strange.Peter and Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13834275662603833577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-36238557416316886922010-11-10T11:02:31.701-08:002010-11-10T11:02:31.701-08:00Hand in what? the library - nothing to do with me...Hand in what? the library - nothing to do with me; that is your local group!Julienoreply@blogger.com