tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post7542699959109070281..comments2024-03-20T00:30:11.702-07:00Comments on Home Education Heretic: Home education; individual or groupSimon Webbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-72713639919894747682013-04-28T16:49:55.125-07:002013-04-28T16:49:55.125-07:00Thank you for the good writeup. It if truth be tol...Thank you for the good writeup. It if truth be told was <br />once a leisure account it. Look complex to more introduced <br />agreeable from you! By the way, how can we communicate?<br /><br /><br />Also visit my blog post: <a href="http://actiecodekras.blogspot.nl/" rel="nofollow">found it for you</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-34488809573773005852013-04-10T11:32:10.271-07:002013-04-10T11:32:10.271-07:00Hi there! This article couldn't be written muc...Hi there! 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Thank you for sharing your experience.Acumenhttp://acumeneducation.ca/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-12489610340186938692012-09-01T11:16:44.082-07:002012-09-01T11:16:44.082-07:00I agree that some people approached the problem in...I agree that some people approached the problem in the wrong way, but at least they realise that it's a small minority who behaved in this way. Unlike some who seem happy to tar all home educators with the same brush.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-7607184149085961582012-09-01T09:53:30.610-07:002012-09-01T09:53:30.610-07:00Oh blimey! HE'ers have got their way at what ...Oh blimey! HE'ers have got their way at what cost! I sometimes think we are our own worst enemies! I couldn't give a stuff about National Film Week. It's just outdated films we've already seen. It's hardly educational. I would be surprised if many people used the educational resources that are available with the films. Gizzienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-34027385764573462022012-09-01T09:22:44.249-07:002012-09-01T09:22:44.249-07:00'Looks like the negotiations paid off. There i...'Looks like the negotiations paid off. There is no need for home educators to sneak into National Film Week showings as per Simon's suggestions above. They can now book online and go legitimately.'<br /><br />That rather depends upon what you mean by the negotiations paying off. Below is the text of a message that may now be seen by every visitor to the National School Film Week site:<br /><br />'In closing, I must also refute the accusations made by a small minority of home educators against Film Education and members of its staff, that we are deliberately discriminating against home educated children and young people. We are prepared, if necessary, to take appropriate action to protect our staff and our organisation from such unfounded accusations'<br /><br />Does anybody think that this gives a good overall impression about home educators? That they must talk in terms of protecting their staff and organisation in this way? I have an idea that if people had just followed my advice, it would not have resulted in this negative publicity for home education!<br /><br />Simon.<br /><br />'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-60912468528253712462012-08-31T14:54:38.884-07:002012-08-31T14:54:38.884-07:00Looks like the negotiations paid off. There is no ...Looks like the negotiations paid off. There is no need for home educators to sneak into National Film Week showings as per Simon's suggestions above. They can now book online and go legitimately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-37138640526756939922012-08-31T05:21:12.178-07:002012-08-31T05:21:12.178-07:00Simon said,
"As I say, I think that this has ...Simon said,<br />"As I say, I think that this has less to do with home education per se than it does with being prepared to ignore silly rules and balance the educational prospects of your children against slavish adherence to rules for which there is no reason."<br /><br />Exactly our view when our children applied for college places (successfully) without the 'required' qualifications. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-27854305060490092602012-08-31T03:57:50.080-07:002012-08-31T03:57:50.080-07:00Simon
You say in ‘National Schools Film Week’
...Simon <br /><br />You say in ‘National Schools Film Week’ <br /><br />‘See what happens when you try to get home educators to follow exactly the same rules as everybody else?’<br /><br />‘The rules never apply for them. Whether it is attending free cinema performances, provision of which is now being treated by some of these clowns as some sort of human right, or getting places at a further education college; they must never be expected to conform to the same standards as the rest of the world.’<br /><br />Yet you are happy to flout the rules that Stonehenge have regarding getting near the stones. Shouldn’t you follow the Stonehenge rules that applied to everybody else? A bit hypocritical possibly? <br />Cheshire Catnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-29961016333069772772012-08-31T02:35:10.114-07:002012-08-31T02:35:10.114-07:00Simon said,
"a rule had been introduced that ...Simon said,<br />"a rule had been introduced that nobody could approach the stones any closer than twenty five yards. This was a completely mad and pointless rule."<br /><br />I think the main issue was ground erosion caused by hundreds of thousands of visitors. From elsewhere:<br /><br /><i>the archaeology in most normal sites is about 6 foot under; at Stonehenge erosion has meant the level is 6 inches under instead. Not only could fragile archaeology be damaged on the fairly small interior of the circle, stones themselves could eventually be undermined (many of them were wobbling dangerously in the 1800's due to erosion, treasure hunters digging around them etc.) The erosion of the outer bank was and would be a great problem too if people were allowed to wander freely about--people often forget about this feature, but it is actually the oldest bit and STILL contains human remains of over 100 people.</i><br /><br />However, you can book a private viewing for the same cost as a normal visit which allows you to go inside the stone circle and also gives you normal access to the site for the day when it opens to the public.<br /><br />"After all, they had been there for thousands of years and as long as nobody attacked them with a hammer and chisel, there could be no possible harm in it."<br /><br />Vandalism has also been a problem. "<i>There is carved modern grafiiti on the stones and areas where huge spraypainted graffiti has been removed, leaving visible damaged such as bald spots in the protective lichen and the letters 'DI' which are over a foot tall!</i>"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-2547856298060160502012-08-31T02:12:44.703-07:002012-08-31T02:12:44.703-07:00Perhaps part of this is a male-female thing. My wi...Perhaps part of this is a male-female thing. My wife used to cringe with horror at the way that I would disregard what seemed to me to me to be petty and pointless rules. This was nothing in particular to do with home education. For instance in 2000, we visited Stonehenge. <br /><br />Forty years ago, one could wander freely among the stones of Stonehenge; admiring them from close up, even touching them. After all, they had been there for thousands of years and as long as nobody attacked them with a hammer and chisel, there could be no possible harm in it. When we went in 2000, a rule had been introduced that nobody could approach the stones any closer than twenty five yards. This was a completely mad and pointless rule. I accordingly told the girls that they could hop over the barrier and walk right up to the stones and look at them as close as they wished. Why wouldn't I have done so? What possible harm are a seven and twelve year old going to do to those mighty megaliths?<br /><br />As I say, I think that this has less to do with home education per se than it does with being prepared to ignore silly rules and balance the educational prospects of your children against slavish adherence to rules for which there is no reason.Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-80302692093636291062012-08-31T01:55:14.774-07:002012-08-31T01:55:14.774-07:00Hmmm, I'm not sure that the fact that I was on...Hmmm, I'm not sure that the fact that I was only home educating one child for much of the time has all that much bearing on the case. Because her sister is five years older than her, trips to the cinema were often divided up anyway, because they often wanted to see different films. From that point of view, a trip to see something for the National School Film Week would not have been any different. I honestly don't think that getting two or three children of different ages into the cinema would present any greater challenge. I am sorely tempted to collect a few kids from friends and give this a try in October. I would put £100 on being able to pull it off with three children of widely differing ages. Where is your sense of adventure; this is half the fun of home education!Simon Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10865289865412656573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-48231239730831059412012-08-31T01:46:34.033-07:002012-08-31T01:46:34.033-07:00And it must be very dissapointing for a child if y...And it must be very dissapointing for a child if you fail to get in to see the film. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-28862331911396224092012-08-31T01:45:16.088-07:002012-08-31T01:45:16.088-07:00Yes, I do think your experiences Simon, are colour...Yes, I do think your experiences Simon, are coloured by the fact you were home educating 1 child- for anyone with a larger family, advance planning is the only way to manage!<br /><br />Also home educators are a very diverse bunch - you should know that by now.Julienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-19493941707090804752012-08-31T01:44:38.282-07:002012-08-31T01:44:38.282-07:00"Not just because they are queering the pitch..."Not just because they are queering the pitch for those parents like me who would simply have got round these new rules"<br /><br />I would think that getting 'chucked out' when attempting to join in with school groups risks 'queering the pitch' for other home educators at least as much since people tend to tar all of a group with the same brush. <br /><br />You seem intent on playing the rebel over this minor issue yet complain when other parents ask (often successfully) local colleges to bend admission rules and seemed content to follow societies 'rules' with regards your daughter aquiring GCSEs. Not so long ago you were also all for the introduction of lots of new legal rules for HE. You're sending mixed messages!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-11393684916989616832012-08-31T01:38:43.654-07:002012-08-31T01:38:43.654-07:00Well, yes, if I was only home-educating one child ...Well, yes, if I was only home-educating one child I'd turn up at the cinema on the day and chance it, too. But most of us have more than one, over a fairly wide age range, so the logistics are a lot more complicated. If I'm taking one or two to the cinema, then my other half needs to take the day off work to look after the others, or I have to arrange something with another home educator. It's an awful lot of hassle if we're not sure we're going to get away with sneaking in. <br /><br />There'll be a way round the new rule, of course there will, but it's a completely pointless extra hassle.<br /><br />I share your irritation with all the self-righteous comments about "discrimination" and so forth but surely you can see that other people are affected by this in ways that you might not have been?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7881402584568285627.post-58045113696527466452012-08-31T01:32:31.162-07:002012-08-31T01:32:31.162-07:00"slip into the area and mingle with the schoo..."slip into the area and mingle with the school group, thus enabling your kid to do something educational that she really wants to do right this minute?"<br /><br />That's fine if you have one child who happens to look around the same age as the group you attempt to mingle with, who in my experience are invariably a single class or year group and are all the same age. Also, it's helpful if they aren't wearing school uniform or some other identifying band or maker. But it's a little more difficult if they are 9 and you have an 7 year old, a 5 year old and a 2 year old in a buggy. Most home educating families we know have more than one child. In fact, I'm struggling to think of any in our local group with only one child.<br /><br />"Most of the parents I have known, would have chosen (a.)"<br /><br />Did they all have only one child?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com