Thursday, 8 April 2010

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There has been a lot of quite natural exuberance on the Internet lists, following the downfall of Schedule 1 of the Children, Schools and Families Bill. This is of course only to be expected. In the midst of it all, a woman who has just deregistered her thirteen year old daughter from school posted a message on Wednesday asking for help and advice on teaching her daughter mathematics. Fiona Nicholson gave information about a couple of websites, but apart from that nobody at all has responded to this parent. I find this quite revealing. Anybody who has a complaint about a local authority officer overstepping the mark, that is to say checking that a child is actually being educated, can be sure of a flurry of sympathetic answers on the lists. These will include the relevant sections of the law to quote and stuff like that. When somebody posts though, asking about teaching her child, the response is to say the least of it, a little muted. Of course, the dull old business of teaching algebra to a teenager caonnot really compare with the excitement of being involved with scuppering a government bill, but even so, one might have thought that at least a few on the list would have answered this woman with some helpful advice.

I have noticed before that few of the threads on either the EO or HE-UK lists actually concern education. The law relating to education, yes. The iniquitous conduct of local authority officers charged with monitoring education, yes. Campaigns about proposed new legislation, certainly. Hints and tips on education, very seldom. Information about teaching a child, never. This is pretty curious really. You might expect that support groups for parents who had undertaken the exceptionally demanding task of being solely responsible for their own children's education would be at least vaguely concerned with education, but it is not generally so. Long on the supposed rights of parents, short on the very real duties towards the child, would about sum up the spirit of these sites.

Apart from complaints about the behaviour of local authorities, what other sort of thing do parents post about? Anything unpleasant which happens to a child in nursery or school is always popular. If a child is sexually assaulted in a nursery or drops dead at school, there will always be a few self satisfied parents making comments along the lines of, 'Oh dear, just look what happens to children at school. We are so wise not to send our own kids to such dreadful places.' I'm sure that the parents posting these comments are not really heartless, but they come across in these posts as being pretty smug about the fact that their own children are not exposed to these hazards. And of course, for the last year or so, many posts have been about the campaign to oppose Graham Badman's recommendations and then the CSF Bill. This is understandable, at least from the perspective of some parents.

I suppose that it might just be me who has a such a skewed perspective , but I have to say that I am constantly surprised that these lists are not more about education. The mothers who do go on there anxious to know what to do next are invariably told to stop worrying and leave their children to their own devices. I cannot think that this is always the best approach! After all, Education Otherwise is recognised even by the government and local authorities as being the organisation in this country for home educators. I don't think it unreasonable to expect their support networks to be a little more concerned with education and a little less with political agitation.

I shall be away for the next few days and so I hope that readers will not think that I am ignoring an comments. We are making a family visit to relatives in Grimsby, of all horrible places.


  1. Crazy Badman Lost Simon such good news no home visits LOL mind you i want to tell our crazy LEA officer to f off! LOL

  2. Given that there have been a number of government initiatives regarding home education over recent years, it's hardly surprising that national lists have been preoccupied with political issues. It sometimes takes a day or two before specific educational queries are answered, but they usually are, and I've noticed that educational discussions usually predominate when there is no urgent political issue to be dealt with.

    A frequent complaint from politically engaged home educators has been that their local lists have shown little interest in what has been going on nationally, and instead discussion has been dominated by topics such as the price of second-hand french textbooks or craft ideas for pumpkins.

    A slightly wider sample, over a longer time-frame might have given a different impression.

  3. Hahahaha hoo kares abowt maffs anywys?

  4. To above poster,

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  5. We won Balls/DCSF Badman lost LOL no silly visits for me!

  6. Get over it, Ed Balls . Your plot has been well and truly lost and your Portillo moment is just around the corner. We wouldn't have complied anyway.

  7. There were 2 responses to the post you mention and I personally emailed and left a phone number but have not heard back from this person.Maybe because it is the holidays .

    Sometimes people appear on the lists and rather than ask about specific programs which others may have found useful, the question is so wide that it is hard to know where to start.
    There are numerous free resources on the net and also cheap textbooks but surely someone should first do a bit of research and look into it themselves. This is part of the learning curve of HE- the parent also has to participate and investigate themselves -support is mostly forthcoming but I get the feeling that sometimes what is actually being sought is 'an answer' from someone else before the individual makes the effort themselves- that is not seeking support but seeking for someone else to do it for them. I may take a few months before a new HE parent works out that a lot of this really is down to personal commitment .
    An active engaged parent will always be able to work things out with a little help but no-one is going to do it for them.

  8. A lot of questions like this are answered off list.

  9. That's a real shame as I'm sure any answers would be of help to other home educators, whatever approach they take. I found information about the Mathletics web site with their reduced rates for home educators very helpful. Two of my autonomously educated children decided to give it a try after I passed the information on to them.

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