Simon Webb's Smear Campaign
From: simon webb
To: homeeducators206@gmail.com
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Dear Mr Warren,
I read with interest your piece about me. I answer your points in my latest post on Home Education Heretic; you may care to glance at it. I am planning to write a post about you and your website, but I have run into a difficulty and would like to give you the chance to clear it up. As far as I can understand, you were at Oxford from 1999 until 2002. However on your site, you say that you have been living in Sweden for thirteen years. Obviously, both cannot be true and perhaps I am getting muddled up myself here! If you could let me know when you actually were at Oxford and when you moved to Sweden, it would be very helpful in putting together the piece which I am planning. Thanks a lot.
Simon Webb.
I received no reply to this and only sent it because I wanted to give him the chance to set the record straight and make sure that I said nothing inaccurate about him. His response was evidently to get in touch with Alison Sauer at once. This rather suggests that they were on a friendly footing at least until three months ago.
Well done Simon! See it is not so difficult to be completely open when one puts one's mind to it!
ReplyDeleteThis is indeed the email that Christopher Warren included in his correspondence with Alison.
Quite why anyone would want to correspond with a Rapture nut job like Christopher Warren is a mystery...
ReplyDeletePerhaps we shouldn't be that surprised at such contact when the HE scene in the UK is getting increasingly cultlike.
ReplyDelete'Quite why anyone would want to correspond with a Rapture nut job like Christopher Warren is a mystery... '
ReplyDeleteUmmmm, well at least one did so in order to get a link/his name removed from his site. So, that's one reason.
'Perhaps we shouldn't be that surprised at such contact when the HE scene in the UK is getting increasingly cultlike.'
ReplyDeleteNot disagreeing with you about the cult-like characteristics of ~some~ parts of the HE community (especially online) but would you like to elaborate on ~how~ that process could result in this specific danger (contact with CW)?
I am not challenging you, simply trying to evaluate your reasoning.
(People tend to get very shirty here when you ask questions, immediately jumping to calling the questioner a 'bigot', 'completely bonkers', 'fanatical' etc so just trying to clear a path through the undergrowth first before discussing this important issue.)
"Ummmm, well at least one did so in order to get a link/his name removed from his site. So, that's one reason."
ReplyDeleteThat is not entirely true ... Simon instigated contact with Warren too. The email he quotes above was clearly an attempt to engage Warren in one of Simon's twisted games. When it backfired and Warren did not reply to Simon (thanks to Alison's assertions about Simon in the HE community), Simon threw a strop and asked for references to him to be removed from Warrens website.
I doubt it had anything to do with good judgement, merely Simon not wishing to appear 'bested' by this warren person. That of course is mere speculation, and Simon will undoubtedly have some perfectly reasonable explanation ;)
Are you completely bonkers, a bigot and fanatical?
ReplyDeleteUsually when that lot has been levelled at someone,you find that there's no smoke without fire.
You should try Lavender oil, it's very calming.
'Are you completely bonkers, a bigot and fanatical?
ReplyDeleteUsually when that lot has been levelled at someone,you find that there's no smoke without fire.
You should try Lavender oil, it's very calming.'
So, you won't be explaining then.
"So, you won't be explaining then."
ReplyDeleteI very much doubt they will. There's a history of random slanderous remarks against home educators on this site, often the cult-like comment, or claims that people are victimised or ostracised for suggesting anything other than AE, but every time evidence is requested the poster descends into abuse and never provides evidence. Either it's the same poster or this site just attracts this type of correspondent...
You do seem to have quite a knack of living up to those comments and providing the evidence for yourself.
ReplyDelete'The email he quotes above was clearly an attempt to engage Warren in one of Simon's twisted games.'
ReplyDeleteThat't certainly one way of describing it! Another would be checking facts and allowing the person about whom I was going to write to set the record straight. I am guessing here that Jacquie Cox has never written for magazines and newspapers, where such courtesies are routine.
Simon.
I think that offsetting the truth against expediency is a twisted game.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I'm reading there's a lot of cultlike behaviour happening right now.
ReplyDelete"You do seem to have quite a knack of living up to those comments and providing the evidence for yourself."
ReplyDeleteIf you were to quote the comment you are replying to we might be able to guess what you're talking about.
"From what I'm reading there's a lot of cultlike behaviour happening right now."
ReplyDeleteBack room dealings and discussions about other people and how to manipulate them are not cult-like behaviours. Unless you thing the UK government and business are cult-like? Now there's a conspiracy theory in the making.
Oh gawd you are naive(could be denial though), of course the government and businesses are cult-like. That's not a conspiracy that's common knowledge and common sense.
ReplyDeleteSomething tells me that David Miscavige holds a great many backroom dealings and discussions about other people and how to manipulate them otherwise he wouldn't get the tax breaks that he does.
How do you work out that backroom dealings and discussions about how to manipulate people aren't cult like behaviour?
"Oh gawd you are naive(could be denial though), of course the government and businesses are cult-like."
ReplyDeleteCult like behaviour is defined as abnormal and bizarre. If such large numbers of people behave like this, it hardly fulfils this definition.
It's well known that a majority of CEOs are classified as psychopaths, they score over 12 points on the scale to confirm it.
ReplyDeleteThe Scientologists have infiltrated business, industry, education and governments.
ReplyDelete"The Scientologists have infiltrated business, industry, education and governments."
ReplyDeleteYour blog is attracting some very strange people these days, Simon. Even if various business people, teachers and politicians, are Scientologists, how does this equate to 'infiltration'? You might just as well say that Jews or Christians are infiltrating business, industry, education and governments.
No, you say that Jews(or Christians)are infiltrating business, industry, education and governments. I never mentioned Jews or Christians.
ReplyDeleteI merely indicated that Scientology has infiltrated many aspects of society. Scientology isn't a religion or a race but has been identified as a multi faceted corporation.
Time magazine describes Scientology as a huge global racket.
Scientology has been found guilty of
Abuse of followers
Unlawful deaths
Disconnection policy
Harrassment
Forced imprisonment
Physical violence
Organised fraud
why do you feel the need to defend such an organisation, are you a Scientologist?
Scientology?? Now I am losing the plot - I thought the discussion was about home education?
ReplyDelete"I merely indicated that Scientology has infiltrated many aspects of society. "
ReplyDeleteBut why did you indicate this? How is this at all relevant to anything?
We got onto Scientology because of Warren, cults and cult like behaviour.
ReplyDeletePerhaps you should question why 'Jews' were bought into the debate.
"Perhaps you should question why 'Jews' were bought into the debate."
ReplyDeleteThey were brought into the debate because I couldn't understand why you made the claim that scientologists have infiltrated business, industry, education and governments. 'Infitrated' suggests that they have gained those jobs especially for a secret purpose. What do you think the secret purpose of scientologists is?
'What do you think the secret purpose of scientologists is?'
ReplyDeleteIt's no secret; they want us all to become operating Thetans.
Simon.
It's also no secret that they want home educators to buy into Appplied Scholastics.
ReplyDeleteWell they are not doing very well with their infiltration and indoctrination plans, since I'd heard of neither before you two told me. Unless you're secretly Scientologists and are spreading the word?
ReplyDeleteOh come on, everybody has heard of Tom Cruise he's an OT, just like John Travolta and Bart Simpson.
ReplyDeleteThe Applied Scholastics scam operates from West Sussex.
Knowing who Tom Cruise, John Travalta and Bart Simpson are doesn't mean that I've heard of OT. Why would it? Unless you're obsessed with celebrity, why would you?
ReplyDelete"The Applied Scholastics scam operates from West Sussex."
ReplyDeleteNot sure why you're attempting to educate me on this issue. I could care less and wonder why you care so much to bother reading up on the issue?