This link leads to a site with more information about Christopher Warren and the NCCG.
http://www.nccg.info/fastfacts.html
There is one very alarming thing here; that he recruits members via the Internet and that some then travel to Sweden to join him. He is apparently very keen on single mothers with fourteen or fifteen year-old daughters. For this reason, I urge the owner of the Badman Review Action Group to remove the link to Warren's site from the list. There is also something rather odd. You will find mention here and elsewhere on the Internet of a supposed connection between this outfit and an orphanage in India. It says;
' The cult has, for many years, claimed to have members in India who are part of a charity/orphanage.'
Here is Warren's own account of this orphanage;
http://www.nccg.org/115.html
This is a curious coincidence. According to Christer Johansson, he and his wife and son were heading to India to work in an orphanage there. Christopher Warren claimed at one time that this orphanage had been destroyed in some sort of natural disaster and all the money lost. It will be remembered that at one time, Christer Johansson also claimed to have lost all his money and belongings in a natural disaster in India. I shall be posting again about this once I have found out a little more.
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The web site you link to claims that the orphanages don't exist and Warren just keeps the donations for it himself. Do you think the web site author is mistaken and they do exist?
ReplyDeleteIf Swedish officials fear that the family are involved with this cult, why have they not done anything about the cult or listed their involvement along with not vaccinating, lack of dental health care and HE, as reasons for holding onto the child? Are they allowed in law not to give all the reasons they have for holding a child? Can they just take children from parents in Sweden without giving valid reasons? If so, it seems as though criminals have more rights than parents because criminals are legally entitled to be given details of any charges made against them.
Here is the sort of question to start asking one's self. If some misfortune befell you, who would be the most prominent in defending you and making statements on your behalf? Would it be those around you; your friends, family, neighbours, fellow employees and so on? Or would it be people who had never met you and lived thousands of miles away from you? If that were the case, this might be a little odd. This is the case with the Johanssons. We have heard nothing at all from anybody who actually knows them. Why is this? They are supposedly Christians, which explains why prayers are being offered for them all over the place. Why have no members of the church in Gotland become involved in this business? Why have we not heard from a single person who actually knows the family? I have my own ideas about this, but until I am sure, I will keep my own counsel. These are questions though that you might like to mull over. If the only people who rushed to your defence were those from other countries who had never met you; why might this be?
ReplyDeleteTheir family in India say they want Domenic back, see the picture at the bottom of this page, http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/2010/07/court-date-pushed-to-september-2nd.html I've also seen other photos and information about their family in India.
ReplyDelete'Their family in India say they want Domenic back, see the picture at the bottom of this page, http://friendsofdomenic.blogspot.com/2010/07/court-date-pushed-to-september-2nd.html I've also seen other photos and information about their family in India.'
ReplyDeleteTrue, but once again these are people thousands of miles away who do not really know Christer Johansson. Of course they want to see their daughter and grandson. Is there nobody who has known the Johanssons for the last ten years who is prepared to say anything about this?
A bit off topic, perhaps, but one thing that has always mystified me is why recent revelations from the deity are so frequently couched in 17th century English.
ReplyDelete'A bit off topic, perhaps, but one thing that has always mystified me is why recent revelations from the deity are so frequently couched in 17th century English.'
ReplyDeleteYes, I noticed the same thing. 'Ye' and 'hath' and so on. I think it partly because these people spend too much time with the King James Bible or the Book of Mormon. Warren was at first a Mormon and this book is written like that as well.
I agree with you as to why it happens; just curious as to how the people conveying the revelations explain it.
ReplyDeleteSome great examples here;
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nccg.info/overview.html
As for how this is explained; I have no idea. The guy that wrote the Book of Mormon in the nineteenth century got away with it OK. I have known some Evangelicals who even talk in this way, beginning sentences with, 'Thus saith the Lord of Hosts..'
*hands up for polythesism* lol
ReplyDeleteSimon, I agree. There is quite a bit of information out there about the "New Covenant Church of God", led by a man named Christopher Warren. Something I noted while browsing the link you provide above is the article written by former cult member, Jannicke Larsen,(see: http://www.nccg.info/jannicke.html .) She claims that Christopher Warren "married" her when she was 15 years old and that she was one of three of his wives at the time. The "wives" were encouraged to "see their husband" in one another and to kiss one another on the lips, massage one another's breasts, and the younger ones were encouraged to suck from the breasts of the older ones. This makes me wonder if Domenic was "kissing and hugging other children", as described by social workers, in a sexual way because he too was exposed to similar behavior. Christopher Warren is clearly closely linked to Christer Johansson. They post on the same facebook sites, and the nccg website has a link referencing the case at:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nccg.org/freesweden/domenic_kidnapping17.html
It links to a very poorly written article by an Anthony Esolen who, based on his other writings, apparently has some views in common with those of the cult (e.g., he 's concerned about "Satanism" and "the Illuminati", believes in corporal punishment of children and the authority of men over women, etc.). While Domenic may not have been likely to grow up in an ideal environment, I still wonder why a total separation was necessary. One wonders if the situation could have been handled by helping the family break away from the cult, rather than by taking the little boy into care. Obviously I don't know all the details, though.